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Poster: HappySwordsman Date: Jul 28, 2010 5:45pm
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Oh beep, there's lost shows from the 1990s

http://wipednews.com/features/the-happening-recovering-the-lost-bsb-archives/

I mean, WTF! These shows are from the 1990s. Not the 1950s. The people who threw away the mastertapes are idiots with no excuse.

However, I expect there's other broadcasters from the 1990s for which some shows no longer exist.

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Poster: cathyftr Date: Jul 29, 2010 3:25am
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: Oh beep, there's lost shows from the 1990s

can think of at least one American "lost show" from the 90's..well actually say 2003 !!! Showtime's "The Front Range Bears".

When Showtime struck gold with such shows as Queer As Folk and The L Word, they felt a comedy featuring hairy gay men would fit so Showtime paid for the filming of the pilot. However after filming Showtime started to suddenly get cold feet for FRB due to a number of reasons. One the show was set in Littleton, Colorado ( Columbine had happened a few years prior and people felt a comedy being set there would be in poor taste ) and would straight men have a "problem" with hairy gay men who smoke cigars, watch sports and have deep voices. I remember hearing an interview with actor Hal Sparks from Queer of Folk on Larry King years ago and he felt it was more of the latter.

Anyway according to Denver's Rocky Mountain News in 2008, Showtime decided against airing the pilot and more/less gave up all rights to the show and the masters, OK the pilot film was "destroyed"..even though every once in awhile a clip from FRB does pop up on You Tube.

Alan Thicke...its been said for YEARS that he himself destroyed the masters of his 1983 talk show "Thicke of the Night" because he felt the show was terrible. But even there copies are still known to pop up on You Tube.

In this day and age of the DVR/VCR/Internet..even if the masters are destroyed..I doubt that there is really a "lost show" post 1980 anyway.

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Poster: HappySwordsman Date: Jul 29, 2010 7:45am
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: Oh beep, there's lost shows from the 1990s

In the case of the shows mentioned in the article, the masters were indeed junked (the production companies said this to the "missing believed wiped" people), and the shows were rarely watched as few people had TV sets that had the right dish to view them, so few people taped them.

"Thicke of the Night" isn't lost at all, that's just a rumor. The Library of Congress has tapes from the series.

Oh yeah, and I've read another broadcasters (BBC) current archival policy on their website. It stinks and is selective.

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Poster: cathyftr Date: Jul 29, 2010 9:18am
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: Oh beep, there's lost shows from the 1990s

Thicke of the Night...yeah I kinda figured that was a "rumor". Chances are started by Thicke Himself !!!

Kinda of reminds me of Dana Plato from Diff'rent Strokes and the softcore lesbian flick she did not long before her death "Jack and Jill....and Jill". Evem though the movie is still available for sale and has been shown on SKINamax..still doesn't stop her hardcore fans from saying "Jack and Jill..and Jill" is a "lost" movie. I guess to defend Dana Plato's "honor" or whatever.

The more I think of it, I wouldn't be surprised that there are a LOT of lost shows...mostly from local TV and radio stations such as programs like "PM Magazine" or Cincinatti's Bob Braun.

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Poster: The_Monkey_Master Date: Jul 29, 2010 6:15pm
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: Oh beep, there's lost shows from the 1990s

Agree about lots of local shows being lost. Here the TV stations small and not very pro-like and the only local show I've ever heard of was some kind of show were the local collage coach talks about the football team or somthing. Don't think many people watch it anyway. I can't think of any reason they would want to archive it.

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Poster: cosmico Date: Jul 29, 2010 6:35pm
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: Oh beep, there's lost shows from the 1990s

I grew up watching a few local horror hosts in the 60s, and little of their material survives. Same goes for local community, talent, dance, and kiddie shows.

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Poster: cathyftr Date: Jul 30, 2010 5:38pm
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: Oh beep, there's lost shows from the 1990s

cosmico,

you are right about how so many of those local dance shows
being lost. The most tragic of these is Baltimore WJZ's Buddy Deane show. In the early 80's WJZ TRASHED tons of tapes of this program. What makes it tragic is that this show was the basis for the very popular broadway musical/movie.."Hairspray". Today only about 8 minutes of Buddy exist in the archives of WJZ. Better than nothing but still......

Meanwhile in Baltimore there is WBAL-TV channel 11. They saved EVERYTHING !!! Tons of tapes from their local news dating back to the 50's, local game shows ( saved !! ) even children's programming ( saved !! ). Heck WBAL still has that bowling alley in their complex that was used for Bowling for Dollars and Pinnbusters back in the 60's & 70's...I am sure that set is a bit dusty by now...but at least it still exist.

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Poster: The_Monkey_Master Date: Jul 31, 2010 6:37am
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: Oh beep, there's lost shows from the 1990s

wow, that's alot of local show for one station. Here the TV stations just a rental place in a outside mall and it's realy small so they don't have any place to make any shows if they wanted to.

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Poster: cathyftr Date: Jul 31, 2010 12:41pm
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: Oh beep, there's lost shows from the 1990s

WBAL is owned by Hearst ( the newspaper people ) which makes a difference as Hearst really believes its good to save the past. As I understand their sister stations like Kansas City's KMBC and Pittsburgh's WTAE, like WBAL have rather large archives for being local stations. Actually on a another site last year I read where WTAE still has the masters of the Paul Shannon (?) show, including the one show that had the Three Stooges as guest. That appearance was so sucessful that it made Moe Howard to reconsider retirement and the Stooges would go on to be just as popular in the 60's as they were in the 30s and 40s.

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Poster: cosmico Date: Jul 31, 2010 3:01pm
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: Oh beep, there's lost shows from the 1990s

I grew up in the OH-WV-PA tri-state area, so I knew the Pgh radio and TV stations well. I had a good friend at WTAE and visited the station a few times. You mention Paul Shannon; well, his Adventure Time was the popular weekday afternoon kiddie show, with a live studio audience of local kids, and he ran cartoons and Stooges shorts every day. I do remember watching when the Stooges visited the show, and they also made the movie The Outlaws Is Coming around that time, with Paul Shannon and a bunch of other kiddie show TV hosts from around the country playing various roles in the movie.

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Poster: cosmico Date: Jul 31, 2010 12:29am
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: Oh beep, there's lost shows from the 1990s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT5SDKOg_aU

That's the local dance show we grew up with. My sister was on there once or twice at least. The host when she was on was the late Stan Scott, who was the station's anchorman, until he quit mainstream TV in the 1970s to become a televangelist.